The Renteria, Jeter Controversy

Alright this post isn't so much of my own making.

This one started on another blog page. You can click on the Title of this article, "The Renteria, Jeter Controversy" to view a conversation between Red Sox, Yankee Fans, & Myself.... Below I will post my end of the conversation but you will have to click on the link above if you want to see how it all started...




allitalian said...

Hey jackass, look up the meaning of the word "intangibles." Your quickness to be a douchebag just further illustrates your status as a Yankees fan.

That was the point of the post, to compare the numbers, and not the "great leadership" qualities of Edgar Renteria.... Derek Jeter has been to 6 world series (4 for 6) and Edgar has "brought," not necessarily led his team to one in Florida and one last year in STL. (You said he's had "many" teams, check your stats before you say dumb shit because he's only been with the two - I knew that off hand and I rarely follow the National League) That's pretty good for any player under 30 years old (which Jeter is not)...

Now this is a far shot in making a point here, but do you honestly think Jeter would have led the Texas Rangers to 2 world series over the last few years if he had to compete with the Braves or the NL Central, or for that matter the Yankees in his league each year ? Highly Doubtful - You have to remember he plays for the Yankees, the biggest stage in baseball, and the Yankees buy world Series tickets like Christmas presents after midnight on December 24th.

Anything can happen in the season and I'll admit this seasons pickups seem a whole lot more sensible than lasts.... Lofton was a dead duck, you knew Kevin Brown would have an injury stricken year (although the punch was self imposed), Gordon is a work horse, and Jose Contreras looked like a joke being the big off-season signing... well that is until Aaron Boone's freak accident.

The facts: Well I've stated my case on Wright, and Pavano is easily overrated, the second coming of Javier Vazquez with a little more confidence, we'll see how he holds up in NY... you can ask any real baseball fan how they feel about Carl. Now Randy Johnson will be dominant... for at least 4 more months, and it's just a matter of time before Mussina begins his downhill slide, at which point the Yankees will disrespect and betray him like they do every other pitcher. That leaves Hernandez or Brown who I wouldn't trust enough in the playoffs as much as I would trust Derek Lowe before the '04 Postseason.

By The Way, Championships aren't won in April so the Schilling news is no big deal. I'll take a #4 in Bronson Arroyo over Jaret Wright any day of the week.... now ponder this, is Wright worth 10 times the money than Arroyo for a 10 game winner? Wakefield is two years older than Mussina, you may get the impression he is older although because he has been with the team 10 seasons, a feat matched by no current Yankee pitcher. Mussina has the senior seat after only 4 seasons (excluding Rivera). Wakefield will be 39, Hernandez & Brown will be 40, Johnson will be 42.... One note, Wakefield throws knuckleballs, which doesn't wear on the shoulder – that was also a dumb comment calling Wake an old man.

You can blow that steroids bullshit out your ass, that's as much of a lame ass comment as you can make (isn't your first baseman Jason Giambi next season)... he didn't "explode" onto steroids, he simply grew up.... players do that, and they're not all as fast as Derek Jeter. But like the original post states, the numbers are from the last 3 seasons... Since he turned 24, the age in which most players finally REACH the majors... and Renteria IS a better fielder. Nobody is "crowing" him to be a savior - he is simply an upgrade from Cabrera and to the '04 Red Sox as a whole.

I would just like to point out the fact that you used in your post such queer Internet terms as LMFAO, LOL, BTW, and used the word “homer” in a derogatory sense, even though you're talking about baseball. I know it still fits but it just doesn't go over well with me as people with lives don't used words like that. Also, if there is one thing that I have learned from the Yankee fans over the years, it's that you are nothing until you have proven yourself. I'll say it once like I've said it a million times, only 4 Yankees still have rings from 2000... They haven't proved shit, that's exactly why the boss has gone out and gotten players like Wright, Stanton, and Womack, who have postseason experience. You aren't shit until you've won shit and the Red Sox are defending champions. You can hype up your 2005 team all you want but the season hasn't started yet and that's the truth. Learn to accept it you Bronx bums.

And Finally, Theo is not being outbid – he just refuses to be pushed around. The Red Sox have a lot of work to do and unlike Brian Cashman, Theo has what is called a “budget,” and you can look that one up too while you've got that dictionary open.




Paolo DeVito
Back In Beantown